What a Way to Go: NetworkOur Endgame
I'm sorry I've not been active in here very much. I've been brain-deep in Derrick Jensen's Endgame volume I. I was told that it was powerful, but after so many ways of being told the same thing, I had doubts. I doubt that man no more. I've just finished it.
I got vol. I for Christmas, but had vol. 2 for awhile now, and was waiting to find a copy of I before I touched it. Let me tell you, I am excited for the next few days I'll be in Vol 2, especially after the promises of "fulcrums" and "bottlenecks" and actual solutions that he's promised me. I can't wait not just to read it, but to begin.
It is time for some extreme action. That's a stupid statement, that time has been the past millennia. It's always time for that. I guess what I mean is it's time that I begin taking extreme action. What if we could literally do what it takes to stand up and destroy civilization? What if we could gather a list of names of all civilization-trapped people willing to participate, save the indigenous, and form some powerful resistance?
I don't know about you, but I want to do something that motivates those "in the river", as a post I just replied to mentioned. One thing that could help is if we could arrange one kick-ass Podcast program. I'm tired of all my efforts being made entirely alone, and I'm not that good at gathering details. In debates or arguments I quickly whither into what looks to others as a blithering idiot. I'm easily tricked into cul de sacs in arguments and beaten, and I'm bloody sick of the winners of our arguments not being those who are right, but those who are more wicked at one-liners or affording the better lawyer or the best stats and figures, etc.
I want there to be a very entertaining, yet apologetic and daring action-inspiring podcast, that keeps people flooding to the sites. I'm not sure yet how to go about this kind of thing, but I'll be looking into it. I know full well that I'd be the joker on such a show, but not so much the main spokesman.
Anyway, I'll check in more often... but I'm getting myself into Vol II right now. Have coffee, will read all night until probably 4 in the morning or something. I'm good at that.
Toodles.
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Go Ray!
Hey Ray
I remember you over on the Ishmael_discussion yahoo group, great to have you here!
I really hope you enjoy 'Endgame' vol 2!
I have a bunch of downloaded talks by Derrick, which keep me in good company on my mp3 player...much better for focusing my mind and heart than listening to the radio!
I don't know what 'extreme action' is needed here...yet. I guess doing what Derrick suggests (falling in love with and listening to the landbase, asking it what it needs) is the best place to start.
Civilisation is already starting to come down. All we need to do is align ourselves with nature and all the variety of folks helping to do this. We need it all!
Personally, I'm not putting much if any energy into lobbying within the central government area, as they are (even the Greens!!!!) trapped in the game....maybe there's a glimmer of hope in the Maori Party?
I think dismantle globally, rebuild locally (Derrick Jensen) is the way to go, so working at the local level is where it's at for me. I'll push for powerdown, relocalisation, transition towns, whatever to get it going here. I doubt it'll make much difference, but I'll give it a go for a while. If I can sow seeds of anti-civ with it, and wake up a few to see it's mainly a problem of cultural crisis/dominant insane culture, all the better.
Regards
Ted Howard
Nelson, New Zealand
Well hi there! I think I'm
Well hi there! I think I'm still on ish_discuss, but I don't think anybody's saying anything lately, are they? I dunno... maybe I got kicked or I'm bouncing or something. I'll check and see.
So far, I'm enjoying the... oh, let's say pudding today... out of Endgame, as I just posted. Wow... he just blasted me inwardly, I can't even begin to tell ya. I'll be blogging for a day or three about how profound what I just leanred about myself is from what I just read in his chapter, "Abusers". Derrick is amazing. Daniel Quinn is initiation, Derrick is bootcamp, there's no doubt about it, cuz I'm ready to roar.
We do need it all, and I do wanna HELP it come down with lots of flare and fun and frolic and celebration and dancing and all that stuff. And remember, the only true way to make a politician useful is to send him that exploding book, and then use him for compost. Either that, or make it look like an accident, and then the taxidermist can make him into the most outstanding paperweight/coatrack/whatever... all your friends will want one... you'll be the talk of the neighborhood! Batteries not included, no assembly required, collect the whole set.
I don't sound angry or jaded, do I? No, surely not.
Ray, aka the PaganBear
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An article that sheds light on the back room
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7693
PB: thanks for your passion. the above is a link to an article that speaks to that which is not obvious to good progressives.....like Derrick, Richard Moore points to the ultimate hoax that any continuance of the current way we are living represents.....
I am so depressed. I just
I am so depressed. I just want to crawl under a rock and sob.
I'm gonna set up a community
I'm gonna set up a community sobbing rock, but it'll have an armory by the exit, so that you can grab some stuff and head to battle once the sorrow's expressed. Just kidding, but I'm back and forth between depression and rage these days, and I know both feed each other, and I know both are entirely rational responses to today's truth. Never let anybody tell you different. I'm sick of hearing people try to.
Ray, aka the PaganBear
http://www.thestumblingblock.com = my site
http://paganbear.livejournal.com = my blog
thepaganbear@yahoo.com
Filled with Terror all OVER again
I wonder how many more times my adrenalyn levels can cope with a new surge of fear? I read the article, Sally, beginning to bitter end. It explained yet more so I just swept one more level toward truth and one level closer to terror. I am in a constant battle with myself between determination not to be among the starving masses - to unlock the food supply for myself and family - and guilt that I'm in a fair way toward being successful at sustainability and all those wonderful people with their beautiful dark eyes and crying souls in Africa and other places where my consumption of stuff means that they are starving - all of them have no place to go, no convenient piece of land with water and good soil where they could plant some food - all of them are going to die and there's not a damned thing I can do about it.
When I got to the end of "An Inconvenient Truth," I remember being astonished at the obvious uselessness of his "suggestions." If Gore understood the extent of the problem as clearly as he obviously did, how could he be encouraging only minor changes that would affect no one's way of life? I saw the need to tell people to learn how to live without electricity in their homes, to re-invent tribal and group living with multiple families in single family homes - to change their way of life absolutely and completely. But, then, that's the point isn't it. Gore had no intention of actually doing anything to alter the way of life of the people of the world. Doing so might slow down the genocide.
Lua
You ain't kiddin, Sally...
You ain't kiddin, Sally... that article kicks ass. I stuck it on my blogs as well. Derrick took a few hundred pages to say that, and didn't even quite sum it all up like Moore just did in that one article. Chilling.
Lua, you also ain't kiddin. I don't think my adrenalyn is able to function anymore. I'm on the edge. You know, I want to move back to Georgia, but I feel like this administration has no incentive to not let the meltdown happen tomorrow just to hold on to power, and establish a martial law, which would keep me from moving back where I belong. And I'm not scheduled to get there till May. Everything in me screams GO NOW and lock yourself up tight and get ready for the fall.
I've not seen Gore's movie. I'm downloading it illegally right now because I sure as hell don't want to pay that idiot anything.
If I had a goat I'd be sacrificing it right now screaming HELP!!!!!!!!! Okay, I wouldn't do that to a poor innocent goat, especially since I live in a red state and there's a whole lot of perfectly good Republicans lying around.
Ray, aka the PaganBear
http://www.thestumblingblock.com = my site
http://paganbear.livejournal.com = my blog
thepaganbear@yahoo.com
forgot...
Forgot to comment on the Georgia part. I'm worried about you going back to Georgia when the entire state is either in the extreme or beyond extreme to exceptional category of drought. In fact, it's more likely that we're going to be seeing a mass exodus from Georgia within the next few months here if they don't get a lot of rain SOON.
Lua
Whisper when you say that, Ray
LOL - about the goat and the republicans.
About the movie - whisper when you say that. You have anything you want to retract for the sake of the stooges cruising the net?
Lua
Oh! I'm sorry, you meant
Oh! I'm sorry, you meant about illegally downloading the movie... yeah, well, I do have to retract that there is no attachment to this website, nor those who put on the film "What a Way to Go", and my desire to do illegal downloads. If upset, know that I fully take responsibility for my thwarting of the copyright Reich. Also, there is no sweeter flavor than freely downloaded Metallica music, or other bands who are so angry with people like me doing this. As long as those folks bombard me with advertisements that encroach upon the planet and spamware that I never permit to invade my computer, I've no problem taking the product they're trying to push. Especially since almost all those same bands sing about is how money is the root of all evil (but boy, they sure do want their share, eh?)
Ray, aka the PaganBear
http://www.thestumblingblock.com = my site
http://paganbear.livejournal.com = my blog
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That's how closeknit I am
That's how closeknit I am with my family... I'd rather ride out a disaster with them then set here alone without them. Also a part of me feels like that place needs as many people willing to shout out the truth as possible.
As for those cruising the net, only one thing to say: "No goats or Republicans were harmed in the making of this post." And of course, I very softly and angrily whisper.... "yet". Bwahahahahaha!!!
Ray, aka the PaganBear
http://www.thestumblingblock.com = my site
http://paganbear.livejournal.com = my blog
thepaganbear@yahoo.com